Daniel Francis: my open call. I would me, I don't use AI to write. Well, that's not true. I used to write code. So maybe I am contradicting myself. But code is like, it's a utilitarian. It's like, it's not meant code is meant to be consumed by another computer. It's not meant to be consumed by a human. So if I want to create something that's meant to be consumed by a computer, I will use a computer. But if it's meant to be consumed by a human, then I want to understand the thing. I want to, you know, ruminate, marinate within it. And then I want to respect the reader or listener's time and give them that insight nugget. Now the AI is used for brainstorming. That part I like. I do use AIs to brainstorm. I use them like, give me synonyms for this. Give me other ideas associated with this. Pull in tangential information. You know, I argue with it sometimes, especially because a lot of them are on guardrails. But I don't use it to actually create the output. I expect a human to sit there and read. That just seems to me like discontinuity, right? It's kind of unfair. It's
Garry Tan: a quality thing. I mean, I agree with you. Like out of box, the quality is bad. But you can have like 20, 28 level stuff. I mean, like I think the pattern that I'm trying to like, you know, tell people is that like, yes, like AI writing out of the box sucks right now. Like if you rely on it out of the box, it sucks. But if you have an eval harness, if you've actually gone to like build a big enough corpus, if you actually like, you know, done cross modal eval and like built, you know, a bang, like I have a banger engine, I have a banger gate. I want to see some banger essays from you then. Because I feel
Garry Tan: think today's virtue signal is, I mean, I think that it's not helpful to people. Like, there are people who are going to listen to this who want to be rich. And they're going to be like, oh, no, like, I shouldn't use AI to write. And it's like, oh, I see. Okay. So, I mean, I agree with you that like human beings and like what you really think matters a lot and you should write. Yeah. And then for me, that writing process is like actually workshopping in Telegram with
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